Its nice that these vehicles are coming out, and that battery sizes are increasing. Its hard to force the future, but I sure hope battery prices quickly come down.
Toyota: New RAV4 EV Is Most Practical, Versatile and Convenient EV
With an estimated 103 miles of real-world range, the Toyota RAV4 EV provides more range than the competition.
"It's the most practical, versatile and convenient electric vehicle on the market," said Bill Fay, group vice president of US Toyota-brand sales. Fay is referring to the RAV4 EV, which starts to arrive at dealerships in California in approximately one month.
Of course, the question is not how practical and convenient the RAV4 EV is compared to other electric vehicles. Yes, the vehicle's 41.8-kWh battery pack provides a few dozen more miles than the LEAF, Focus Electric, Fit EV—with their packs in the low to mid-20-kWh range. And as an SUV instead of a small hatchback, it's a more versatile vehicle for carrying people and stuff. But the attribute and comparison left out of Fay's statement is affordability compared to the gas-powered version of the RAV4.
Pricing for the four-cylinder front-wheel-drive gas-powered RAV4 begins at $22,650 and tops out at $27,250. Meanwhile, the pre-incentive price tag for the RAV4 EV is $49,800—which drops to just below $40,000 after federal and California incentives. As amazing as the RAV4 EV's powertrain might be, and as efficient as that powertrain is at delivering an expected range of 113 miles or more, the gap in price is significant. And the range on the gas version is up to four times as far as the electric version.
EV fans and advocates recognize that this gas-to-EV comparison only goes so far—because electric vehicle technology has not reached economies of scale. And its benefits in terms of smooth rapid acceleration, and environmental gains, put EVs in an entirely different category. But that argument has proven difficult to make to mainstream cost-conscious buyers.
Toyota expects the RAV4 EV to be officially rated by the EPA at 103 miles of electric-only range. But the automaker says that with a standard charge, the electric SUV goes 92 miles and the extended charge option boosts range to 113. The standard charge doesn't fill the battery pack to its capacity, and therefore extends its life. The EPA has not issued finalized ratings for the RAV4 EV.
Toyota admits that it doesn't know how big the market it is for a pure EV SUV that sells for nearly $50,000 before incentives. The company plans to make and sell 2,600 units by the end of 2014.
Comments
· Tom Moloughney · 41 weeks ago
Terry, if cost was the only consideration, you should have bought a Honda Fit five years ago, there just no way to justify buying a Prius. You could have bought a Fit for about $7,000 less than you paid for your Prius and you'll never recoup the $7,000 in fuel savings.
People don't just buy these cars because they save on fuel. You really can't compare a RAV-4 to a Prius for utility and you definitely can't compare a Prius to a RAV4 EV or performance. Most people that buy an EV don't want a car that runs on gasoline and will pay more to get one that doesn't.
· Kai Holland (not verified) · 41 weeks ago
When I heard Toyota was developing an all electric Rav, I was so excited. Then I found out it was for California only and was selling for $50K. It's almost like they don't want to sell these cars but are forced to produce then because of some California law. Hmm.
· Benjamin Nead · 41 weeks ago
That's right, Kai. If auto makers want to continue to sell cars in California, a certain percentage of them have to be zero emissions. The easiest way to do that is make a couple thousand EVs off of an existing subframe and limit sales just to there. We call them compliance cars. I suppose the consolation with this one is the opportunity to actually purchase it, since that negates Toyota's chance to yank your leased EV and crush it (like they attempted to do with the original RAV4 EV.)
I see very little point to this thing. Then again, I don't see much point to compact 2-wheel-drive SUVs in general. If you're going to make an EV to carry more than 5 people (and how often is that going to happen with one of these?,) then at least advance a half-hearted attempt to make it aerodynamic, so you can get even more range from that big battery. A minivan format would be more practical in this regard. But, if you're wanting to make a real off-road vehicle with high ground clearance, then this one should have the front differential and a range extender ICE.
· EVNow · 41 weeks ago
@Brian Schwerdt · "With a price like that, I would think that the Tesla Model X is much closer of a competitor than a Nissan Leaf."
Leaf : 35,200
Rav 4 EV : 49,800
Model S : 57,400
Model X : 70,000 (est)
· Anonymous (not verified) · 40 weeks ago
While I agree with Tom that cost shouldn't be the only determining factor here... the "cost" of the environment is also a factor that too many people ignore.... it doesn't matter when it's out of reach. For me, I simply can't afford a 40K car for making daily commutes. Got one kid in college and another on the way. And with a daily commute of just 50 miles round trip, the Leaf will do for me at half the price.
So far looks like we'll be getting a leaf on next vehicle update if I can figure out how to deal with the family politics.... my uncle is a Toyota Service Manager..... :-)
· Richard Camp (not verified) · 40 weeks ago
Tom Moloughney - "Most people that buy an EV don't want a car that runs on gasoline and will pay more to get one that doesn't."
That is exactly right, at least for me. There are several reasons why I want an EV, and the ability to never visit a gas station again is only one of them.
I like the ride and higher visibility of an SUV
Toyota warrants the battery for 8 years/100,000 mi.
Very little maintenance
No emissions
I can sleep in it when the wife throws me out of the house
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With a price like that, I would think that the Tesla Model X is much closer of a competitor than a Nissan Leaf. Comparing this to the Model X stats, I wonder why anyone would choose it, other than the fact that Toyota has a long track record but Tesla is a new company.