Republican Congressman Calls for Cancellation of $7,500 Plug-in Vehicle Tax Credit

By Brad Berman · January 03, 2012

Republican Mike Kelly

Republican congressman Mike Kelly introduced legislation calling for the cancellation of the US' $7,500 plug-in vehicle tax credit.

Republican Congressman Mike Kelly represents Pennsylvania's 3rd congressional district. He earns his living selling vehicles at Kelly Chevrolet-Cadillac, a dealership located in Butler, Penn. Kelly took over the dealership from his father in 1995 and since expanded its operations to include vehicles from Hyundai and Kia.

Last week, Kelly introduced legislation calling for the cancellation of the $7,500 plug-in vehicle tax credit. Kelly, riding a wave of Conservative anti-EV sentiment, is openly critical of the Chevy Volt.

"I can stock a Chevy Cruze, which is about a $17,500 car and turns every 30 to 40 days out of inventory or I can have a Volt, which never turns and creates nothing for me on the lot except interest costs," said Kelly in October. "There is no market for this car."

Like a true politician, Kelly leaves himself some wriggle room—maybe because the Volt is an American product that helps the United States wean itself from its dependence on oil. "This is not to say I don't support the development of electric cars. I do, but not at taxpayer expense."

Chevy Volt

Mike Kelly is openly critical of the Chevy Volt and claims that there's "no market for this car."

Kelly's bill, H.R. 3768, cites a "lack of mainstream market demand" as the main reason for canceling the credit. In a growing trend, Kelly uses electric cars as a political football, especially after the failure of Solyndra. "The misuse of taxpayer dollars to promote the electric vehicle is emblematic of the Obama administration's overall misunderstanding, and ultimate manipulation, of the free market principles that undergird our economy," said Kelly. "President Obama has become the 'Venture Capitalist in Chief,' gambling hard-earned taxpayer dollars in green projects and industries that are more politically than performance driven."

Kelly echoes the main argument espoused by anti-EV advocates—that electric cars are toys for rich people. Kelly says that subsidizing the purchases of upper-income individuals is not the correct course of action to take during these difficult financial times. According to Kelly, the $7,500 credit goes to the "few who can actually afford to buy an electric car."

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Bradley Berman is the editor of PluginCars.com. Brad writes about alternative energy cars for The New York Times, Detroit Free Press, Reuters and other publications. He is quoted in national media outlets, such as CBS News, ABC News, CNBC, CBC, and MarketWatch. Mr. Berman is a tireless researcher of the green car market. He is the transportation editor at Home Power magazine.

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Comments

· Brett Owen (not verified) · 19 weeks ago

Kelly makes an important and significant point. To that extent, we should drop the $7500 credit for Pennsylvania and raise it to $7650 for all the other states. That way everybody's happy. :)

· Brett Owen (not verified) · 19 weeks ago

Well, three other issues I see with this:

#1 He's basing this bill on his own inability to sell electric cars, or the disinterest of his local community to buy them. I'm guessing this is the latter, his community doesn't have a use for EVs.

#2 If people don't use the $7,500 tax credit to buy an electric car, then how is the money being wasted? The government has not spent any money if no one has claimed it.

#3 What does this have to do with the Leaf, MiEv, Rav4 EV, etc?

· Steve Harvey · 19 weeks ago

Good article! Several things can be pointed out here about Representative Kelly's argument. Here are two of them -

1. First, he is openly hypocritical. He says that he opposes subsidies, but then he defends the (much larger) government subsidies for the oil industry.
2. Second, much of his own personal fortune is in oil (millions). So he is protecting his own portfolio, at the Nation's expense.

http://thinkprogress.org/green/2011/07/05/260558/mike-kelly-oil-subsidies/

· abasile · 19 weeks ago

@Brett: I totally agree with #2. If there is truly "no market", then the tax credits will not get used.

So what if not everyone can afford an electric car yet? The point of the tax credits is to help lithium battery cars in their infancy, so that costs can come down more quickly.

'ex-EV1 driver' (in other threads) has made a valid point about one downside of the tax credits, though. They provide an opening for EVs to get politicized in a negative way. This has the effect of turning away potential buyers, not to mention businesses that might otherwise have been supportive of EV charging.

Personally, I would not have considered the LEAF in the first place without the government incentives. On the other hand, now that I've tasted the benefits of EVs, I'd still want to purchase one even without the incentives.

Yes, on balance I support the $7500 tax credit, especially in light of how much we are subsidizing oil. It's just a shame to see shortsighted politicians behaving as they always do.

· Charles (not verified) · 19 weeks ago

If not for the 'Venture Capitalist in Chief' there would be no Chevrolet or Cadillac dealers left in the world, including Republican Congressman Mike Kelly.

BTW there is a Leaf living just a block from me and nobody on this street would be in the GOP rich category.

· JRP3 · 19 weeks ago

Unfortunately he seems to be basing his point on people not wanting a Volt, which is a hybrid, not an EV. I think subsidies should be restructured, more for actual EV's but with a price ceiling to promote cheaper and more efficient EV's. As much as I love the Tesla Model S, and being that I'm also a stock holder and want them to succeed, I don't think we need to subsidize the models above the base S any more, maybe have a decreasing subsidy above $40K or so.

· Doug (not verified) · 19 weeks ago

No problem, as long as you eliminate all the subsidies for the fossil fuel industry, the conventional automobile industry, etc. Many more billions are spent on the fossil fuel industry every year than have ever been spent on electric vehicles.

Not to mention all those expensive foreign wars to protect oil supplies... uncertainty from sabre rattling from Iran, etc.

· Tom Moloughney · 19 weeks ago

I just started writing a post on this to put up here but I see Brad beat me to it. I wanted to really make sure the point that Mr Kelly is clearly an "oil man" known. He's not simply a concerned politician, he's a shill for the oil industry and his wealth comes form oil.
Thank you Steve for pointing it out. I'm going to include the link here again because I don't want anyone to miss out on this important little fact:

http://thinkprogress.org/green/2011/07/05/260558/mike-kelly-oil-subsidies/

· Brett Owen (not verified) · 19 weeks ago

Doug: hehe, you beat me. Sure, perhaps if you get rid of all other subsidies it's fair. :)

Does Kelly actually have a chance of winning though? I mean, is there legitimate support in Congress to limit sales at his local dealership?

· Londo Bell (not verified) · 19 weeks ago

1 way to deal with this, and I'm talking extremely high level here, is to have the credit removed from the EV themselves, but apply to the battery (or the battery makers) for EV use.

Deja vu pretty much on the same concept, but very important from a political/legal pov. Overall outcome should be same.

Now that, to me, is comparing apples to apples. You got subsidies on gasoline? We got subsidies on batteries. You got no subsidy on ICE vehicle? We got no subsidy on EV.

There are definitely some minor (or major) issues with this concept. For example, Nissan, who makes its own battery, should (and hopefully will) pass on the $7500 credit directly to the consumer (and not as a tax credit anymore that consumer may/may not be able to claim). GM, Coda, Ford, etc. otoh, which purchase batteries from external sources, may not see the full $7500 credit, since the credit will go to the battery makers. Whatever discount they will get, hopefully will be passed onto the consumers too.

You see, the argument here is that EVs are rich people's toys, and in many ways, that's true. See Focus EV, Coda, Tesla, and for PHEV, Volt, Fisker Karma. The argument, otoh, is NOT on the batteries :)

Just my 2 cents.

BTW, if you are good with Math, know the inside out of leasing, and would like to purchase an EV with the full credit (no need to claim) before any chance of that being discontinued, there're ways to. I don't know about Mitsubishi "i" having any special lease, but I know Nissan :) There really is a way to get a Nissan LEAF at the price of a Prius II/III HEV, i.e. around $26K, out the door. The secret is to focus on the lease, the make it a pre-paid lease. In that sense, full $7.5K credit. $2K Nissan discount (only if you go with the lease), and $0 on interest for the lease. You then paid on depreciation of the vehicle for the 1st 3 years. You can then select buy-out on the residual immediately, or wait 3 years to do it. In that way, you get a LEAF SV, MY12, @ $26K.

Won't work on Volt though, because Volt has a ballooned residual, and the $7500 goes to the bank, not you :( 1 way or the other, the Volt will still cost over $40K to purchase (that's without dealership discount or GM's incentives, which officially, none to consumer.) That's 1 reason why the arrows are pointing to the Volt (because Kelly's argument won't hold on a LEAF, as $26K vehicle is definitely not a rich people's toy).

· Londo Bell (not verified) · 19 weeks ago

1 thing I want to be a bit clearer - currently, one can claim the $7500 on the purchase of a vehicle that is powered by a certain size of the battery. You claim it on IRS forms.

What IRS can do, or the legislations to be re-written, is that one can claim that same amount of credit buy purchasing a certain size battery, strictly for vehicle use (and must be installed on the vehicle).

Then when you purchase a EV, show 2 prices on all docs - EV without the price of the battery, and price of the battery. You must buy BOTH for that transaction, but portion of money paid is on the battery. Kinda like when you paid for your meal, which include all ingredients of food and add-on on same bill.

· nosoupforyou · 19 weeks ago

I hope this bill does not gain any momentum, because otherwise, I will be unable to purchase the Volt if the tax credit is revoked. Kelly seems to make out the situation as black and white - either you can instantly go out and buy one or you can't afford one at all. Then there's the rest of us, like me, who have to save money over a long period of time to afford a plug-in car. When I plan to purchase my Volt in several months, I will have been saving my money for a year. Adding on an addition $7500 to the price tag will price me out of the car that best fits me for my living situation. Too bad Kelly won't be getting my business at his dealership...

· Tom Moloughney · 19 weeks ago

I just called my congressman Rodney Frelinghuysen. He's a republican. I spoke to one of his office staff for about a half hour and offered my position on plug ins and warned him that there are a lot of republican voters in my area that do support plug ins and the tax credit. I think that the position that many of the republican politicians (the anti-Obama position) isn't shared by their constituency. I warned him to look at this bill for what it is instead of what the party line wants. I'll follow up with a visit to his local office which is about ten miles from my home.

It seems our politicians only care about votes. I want him to know he's going to lose a lot of them if he supports this bill. I urge everyone else to take ten minutes to look up your congressman's phone number and call to express yourself. This issue is to big to just sit by and watch.

· Londo Bell (not verified) · 19 weeks ago

@nosoupforyou,

2 things:

(1) Mike Kelly's dealership does NOT sell Volt.

(2) If you've to save for a long time to get a plug-in hybrid, then it is NOT the vehicle for you. Seriously, better financial management is a better choice, and no vehicle of an owner should be more than 15% of his/her annual income. Don't put yourself in financial debt. You can contribute in other ways too. Fuell efficient vehicle, or even a hybrid like the Insight, will make your life, and those around you, much easier.

You do know that the $7500 is not cash rebate, right? It's only for you to claim if you have over $7500 that you need to pay to the IRS, under the AMT category, during taxation time. The way you wrote - seem to me you've already misunderstood that $7500 tax credit, and the Volt has already priced you out to begin with.

· brg2290 · 19 weeks ago

MK's secretary on speaker phone, "Congressman, ExxonMobil is on the phone."

MK - "Oh, yes, yes, put them right through." Pause "Hello, this is Congressman Kelly, how may I help you today."

ExxonMobil - "Hi Mike. How's your war chest shaping up for the next election? We'd like to make a "contribution". There's just one niggling problem we'd like you to look into...the Federally funded rebates for the purchase of electric vehicles need to go away."

MK - "I understand, but I'm not sure my constituents would support a move like that. How much of a "contribution" are we talking about, anyway?"

ExxonMobil - "We'll make it well worth your time, Mike. And who's more important anyway Mike, a top financial contributor, or your constituents?"

MK - "Well, you do have a point there. Besides, when customers ask about an electric vehicle, I instructed my salespeople to push the Cruze. When would this "contribution" be made?"

ExxonMobil - Mike, you're a good man. We can make the contribution post haste. And about your instructions to the salespeople, would you consider deleting the word Cruze and inserting "truck" or "SUV"?

· alt-e · 19 weeks ago

@Tom - You are doing exactly the right thing. There are actually two things the politicians care about: $ contributions and votes. With corporations now considered persons who have the right to express themselves and with money considered expression, all we hear about is the money. But the votes are just as improtant to the politicians and if people band together to support something the politicians will take notice.

The EV industry needs this $7,500 tax credit to have a healthy growth trajectory over the next few years. The reason why this is needed is that if batteries, power electronics and car drive motors are made in limited production both the material and other production costs are high. It is only when we get to higher volume that these costs will come down.

I know that people may be skeptical over hearing that because it is said all the time by the industry. But it is said all the time because it is true. High volume is needed to get the costs down.

And the same thing is true in other industries. When a laptop or cellphone contains new and advanced tech that has not yet been produced in high volume it is also at least as premium in cost as EVs are now. The big difference is how expensive a car is. A phone that costs 30% to 50% more will find some buyers out there somewhere as it is only a $100 or $200 that someone needs to come up with. But with a car this early low volume production premium puts the car price into the range that only the wealthy can afford. So the tax credit is what prevents EVs from only being bought by the rich in the early days and allows EVs to approach the kind of volumes where the tax credit can be taken away.

Back in the days of the Great Depression there was the concept of "priming the pump". This means that if the government puts in some cash to get something going, then the government can back away once everything is up and running. Without doing this from time to time there would be a lot of things that we depend on today that we would not have. Like a national highway system, gasoline powered cars (because we would have run out of oil), the internet, computer chips, the national power grid, etc., etc.

Letting the private sector do whatever it can is great because the private sector can come up with a huge variety of solutions to problems and let the public pick which onces will win. Like the difference between a LEAF and a Volt. But when the private sector just isn't equipped to do something, like overcome the cost vs volume curve of the emergent EV industry, then government can play a very useful role by pushing EVs past the bump in the curve.

And in so doing the government will reduce the country's trade deficit by leading to the day when cars are powered by domestic energy sources once again. Take away oil imports and you pretty much take away the trade imbalance. And make us less vulnerable to foreign wars. Not to mention saving the cities on the coastline from future flooding, etc. It is a strategic move that is in the country's longterm interest. It is not done to be charitable to EV buyers.

· nosoupforyou · 19 weeks ago

@London Bell

My mistake, I thought I read somewhere that Kelly's dealership was forced to take on a demo Volt and he's bitter about that.

I am aware that this is a tax credit and not a rebate. As long as I can recoup the money at tax time it makes financial sense. Could I have gone out last year and bought one? Absolutely. Would I have been comfortable with the payments? No, because I like having a relatively small car payment. If the credit disappears, then I'll be back to considering a Prius again.

· Londo Bell (not verified) · 19 weeks ago

@ nosoupforyou,

This is getting ot, so it's going to be my last comment on this ot talk.

You know your own financial situation best.

Best talk to your financial advisor or accountant first, prior to signing any purchase agreement. Frankly, you still sound like that you really can't afford the Volt, tax credit or not.

There is a difference between what one can afford and what one can buy. The wise will look deeply into the former, the fools will just go with the latter.

· tterbo · 19 weeks ago

http://www.mikekellyauto.com/search/New+Chevrolet+tm

I'm confused, his dealership has no Volt's in their new inventory according to their Internet dealership site. Yet they're having real trouble selling them?

They could try ordering some. Ordering stock is the first step to selling it. ;)

· Mike G (not verified) · 19 weeks ago

Can you say conflict of interests.........lack of ethics.......constitutional amendment to Pa constitution to only have volunteer representatives like other states......

· tterbo · 19 weeks ago

Mike G: I don't know, if Kelly is the poster child for anti-EVs, maybe it's just as well. The campaign against him is as simple as a link to the inventory page of his own dealership. He is telling the truth. He can't sell any Volts. He's also telling the truth on his car site that he hasn't got a single Volt to test. He's an honest man. :D

· tterbo · 19 weeks ago

well, test or sell. :)

· Chris T. (not verified) · 19 weeks ago

Anyone who lives in that area and plans to buy a Volt: please go to his dealership and tell them "I will buy a Volt from you today if I can get it from you today." When they say they have no inventory "but take a look at this car", tell them, "nope, sorry, I'm on to the next dealers on my list, preferably someone who thinks the Volt is a good idea."

· Anonymous (not verified) · 19 weeks ago

The republicans are going to drink water. BMW EV cars will invade the market until 2015.

· Anonymous (not verified) · 19 weeks ago

Let's try something different. Rather than giving tax credits see where the federal government could buy fleet type vehicles to support development. The military is already buying various solar systems to charge batteries etc and saving money while doing so. Electric postal delivery trucks, vehicles for use on military bases, and many others could be purchased.

· JeffU (not verified) · 19 weeks ago

If you lease a Volt they can roll the $7500 tax credit into the lease. The lease company gets it. They get to pay less in taxes or take it one as a value add service if THEY don't qualify.

My Volt was $43105. GM gave me a $2000 incentive to go for the U.S. Bank lease. So that's $9500 off the sicker price. So the price of my Volt was then $33605.

I then put down $5000 out of the $22,000 I got when I sold my 2009 Prius.

So I financed $28,605 for my new Volt.

My Volt payment is $382 per month. Yes I have a $24000 buy-out after the lease.
But the total will be $37752 for the car, all monthly payments plus the buy-out. I can finance the buy-out to keep my monthly low still.

The bottom-line is that the Volt is cheaper per month than my Prius. My Prius payment was $424 per month PLUS THE GAS it used. Another $100 per month.

The value of car is not it's price.

· Chris · 19 weeks ago

Well the Tea Baggers really got fooled by this guy. He didn't earn any of his money. He basically married an oil/natural gas heiress then purchased his father's car dealership. Apparently there is another way to pump for oil profits;)

· nashsteve (not verified) · 19 weeks ago

Even a diehard capitalist like me would rather see this money spend on electric cars than on all the money we have spent in Iraq. What did that get us, more anti-US feelings around the world, higher deficits, dead and injured soldiers and Iraq is already begining to show signs of instability. I hope the defense contractors that benefited from this are happy.

· spicoli · 19 weeks ago

A pillar of integrity...

· abasile · 19 weeks ago

Thank you for that Fox News link. It is important to remember that the current EV and solar subsidies were supported by the Bush administration. President Bush (plus some of us including myself) seemed to wise up regarding oil dependency after experiencing the Iraq boondoggle. (Still, my greatest respect goes to our troops and their families who sacrificed in Iraq.)

For all of his significant flaws, I'd prefer a third term of G.W. Bush over any of the serious contenders in the current Republican field (and Obama). How any politician with national aspirations can honestly call widely-accepted science (I'm referring to global warming) a "hoax" is beyond me. Sure, folks can disagree as to how to address climate change, or how much of a priority addressing it should be, but to simply dismiss it as most of the current candidates are doing is a real turn-off to me. To top it off, Mitt Romney recently laughed off the Volt as a vehicle whose "time has not come". Give me a break.

· Perylous (not verified) · 19 weeks ago

Another sad story....these rebates are a infinitesimal part of what we spend.
Is it any wonder Congress's approval is 9%?

· JRP3 · 19 weeks ago

abasile,
I'm curious how you would prefer Bush over Obama considering your stance on global warming and EV's. Bush was rather anti-science, as are the current crop of GOP candidates, and Obama certainly is not. Bush may have gotten a few things right but he also obviously got some major things wrong.
Eight years of Bush ended up in a giant mess, one that Obama has been trying to clean up even as he is being blamed for the fallout. You can't turn a country around in a couple of years. Looking back on Bush with fondness while suffering the consequences of his leadership seems misguided at best.

· EVNow · 19 weeks ago

"Bush may have gotten a few things right ..."

I doubt it. He got everything I'm concerned about wrong. Heck, he even missed Bin Laden in Tora Bora.

· abasile · 19 weeks ago

Bush's biggest mistake, IMHO, was Iraq. I think he ended up learning something from that, hence his relative affinity for oil alternatives in his latter years. Bush was anti-science to a degree, but it appears not as badly as the current crop of candidates.

The housing/subprime collapse, and consequent recession, had plenty of blame to go around, including on the Left. In Bush's shoes, would Obama have done any better?

As a Christian, it is hard for me not to prefer candidates who are pro-life.

· JRP3 · 19 weeks ago

Luckily control of a woman's body is still legally hers and not dictated by religious beliefs from the dark ages. Abortion will always happen as it always has, and it needs to be legal and safe for the woman. Further more we cannot mindlessly procreate forever, population control will happen, one way or another. I'd rather not have it be disease, famine, and war.

· abasile · 19 weeks ago

JRP3: Population control through contraception is one thing, but abortion is something else. You don't have to be a Christian to see the evil of abortion for what it is. I'll stop there, at least on this forum, and we can respectfully agree to disagree.

· indyflick · 19 weeks ago

@abasile, actually what's evil is a mindless attempt to oppress women.

· Chad (not verified) · 19 weeks ago

I think its a good idea to get rid the of rebate. Unless they amended the rules to not allow dealers to abuse this. I hate the idea of having something taken from me by a bunch of greedy business owners.

· dgpcolorado · 19 weeks ago

@Chad, "I think its a good idea to get rid the of rebate. Unless they amended the rules to not allow dealers to abuse this. I hate the idea of having something taken from me by a bunch of greedy business owners."

Huh? If by "rebate" you are referring to the $7500 tax credit, what has that to do with "dealers" or "greedy business owners"? It is claimed by the car buyer, if he/she owes at least $7500 in federal income taxes. Or it is claimed by the leasing company if the car is leased and then used as part of the down payment on the car.

If we are going to get rid of this limited, temporary, tax credit, we ought to get rid of the subsidies to oil production as well, including the $1 Trillion+ we have spent on wars in the Middle East to keep oil flowing. And we should add the other external costs of oil use, such as pollution, to the cost of a gallon of gasoline or diesel. That would help level out the "playing field" between oil and electricity powered vehicles.

Since that isn't going to happen in the USA, I think that the temporary tax credit for EVs is little enough to help jump-start a product and industry that will be beneficial to national security and the economy.

· Kirk G (not verified) · 18 weeks ago

I am a conservative and I SUPPORT EV's and hybrids, I think they are the future. My family has a 2006 Prius and I am very interested in the new 2013 Ford Fusion Energi as a replacement for the Prius.
I am ok with the tax credit for all the manufactures except GM, they already got too much of tax payers funds.

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