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Options and pricing update for the Model S or just Model S
· MFong · 21 weeks ago
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· Tom Moloughney · 21 weeks ago
Ex, I could be wrong but I don't think supercharging is available as an option if you buy the 160mi version.
I'm thinking long and hard about the 230mi one.The in-laws live 210 miles and I'd really love to make the trip without the need to stop and charge.
I'm installing a Clipper Creek CS-40 in their house after the New Year so I have charging capability there. I'm scouting for a place to charge level two that's about halfway there so I can take the ActiveE there, but it's looking like I'll need to make two stops because there's nothing right in the middle.
However if I do get an S, I'd like to be able to make the trip without the need to charge during the way. Of course a supercharger placed on the route would make that concern go away
· EVNow · 21 weeks ago
I'm very disappointed that the 160 mile (40 kWh) version doesn't have DC Quick Charge ability. That puts it in a very uncompetitive position w.r.t. Ininfiti EV. I doubt Tesla can sell their target of 20,000 EVs per year ...
· ex-EV1 driver · 21 weeks ago
@EVNow,
Tesla's "Supercharger" is a DC Quickcharge. The only differences are a different connector and 90 kW instead of the slower 50 kW of CHAdeMO. It will be electrically compatible with the SAE DC Quickcharge standard so you. Can use either a Tesla or SAE (with adapter) charging station.
From what I've seen, the Infinity will likely be the poor cousin to the Tesla Model S unless Nissan really outside themselves.
All assuming, of course, that Tesla is successful in executing their plans.
· EVNow · 21 weeks ago
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Tesla won't let 160 milers use Supercharger. I'm using generic QC instead of Supercharger.
· ex-EV1 driver · 21 weeks ago
EVNow,
I understand and agree. I wish the Supercharger were available on the 160 mile pack as well. I wonder if/when they offer the rental option for larger packs, whether they can be Supercharged.
I understand that one reason they're not too concerned about Supercharging their 160 mile pack is that they are only planning to deploy Superchargers along major highways and they aren't likely to be within 160 mile range of most people.
An example is that the Tesla charger at Harris Ranch, in CA, is ~180 miles from SF and ~190 miles from LA. It would be hard to get there from either metro area with a 160 mile pack. Supporting superchargers at 160 mile separation would be a lot more expensive for them.
· EVNow · 21 weeks ago
I, ofcourse, worry less about SuperChargers and more about possible CHAdeMO adapters. If Supercharging is not allowed, mostly probably, the DC pins in the Tesla charger cable aren't working (i.e. the wiring & hardware to connect them to the battery pack directly aren't there). That means, the CHAdeMO adopter won't work with the 160 miler either.
Looks like Tesla is really trying to push people into getting the 60 kWh model instead of the 40 kWh. Not sure I want to pay extra $10k just to get QC which should have been there in the 40 kWh model as an option ...
· ex-EV1 driver · 21 weeks ago
@EVNow,
It also looks like Tesla may throw an additional charge to get
supercharger access on a 60 kWh Model S as well. It will be interesting to see the price difference between a 60 kWh battery with Supercharger and a standard 85 kWh battery that has Supercharger standard.
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Its interesting to see that Tesla stuck with it's planned $49K base price for a very plush model. Of course, you have to add more in order to get super charging, longer battery range, etc but, compared to a $29K loaded Leaf, for an additional $20K, you're getting a lot more vehicle - and it is made in the USA.