Is Nissan's $9,900 Quick-Charger a Breakthrough for Electric Cars?

By Brad Berman · November 14, 2011

Nissan's low-cost quick charger

Nissan is rolling out DC quick-chargers in Europe, and will soon offer them in the United States for $10,000.

In January 2012, Nissan will begin taking orders for a low-cost 480-volt DC quick-charger that can recharge a Nissan LEAF from "empty" to 80-percent capacity in 30 minutes. A quick top-up of an electric vehicle's battery—say from half empty to nearly full—could happen in about five or six minutes. "That makes it the equivalent of stopping for gas," said Brendan Jones, Nissan's director of LEAF marketing and sales strategy.

That quick-charge capability has been in place for some time, but the cost has been in measured in the multiple tens of thousands of dollars. The news here, which might even be considered a breakthrough, is that Nissan's quick-charger will sell for $10,000. When I spoke with Michael Farkas, the CEO of Car Charging Group, he said, "The sweet spot for DC fast charging is about $12,000 to $15,000." It appears that Nissan has put more sugar in the sweet spot, by bringing the price down to $10,000. This could allow municipalities, small business (and even groups of EV owners), to sprinkle quick charging across popular EV markets. The cost of installation remains the wild card.

Jointly developed by Nissan and Japanese conglomerate Sumitomo Corporation, the DC quick-charge station is a compact unit designed specifically for the US market. The charger uses the CHAdeMO quick charging protocol and operates on 480 volts.

With a starting price of only $9,900, Nissan’s quick charger costs roughly one third the price of comparable units available today, according to the Japanese automaker. Additionally, Nissan claims that the unit is one half the size of most of the currently available DC quick chargers, while still retaining identical performance.

Brian Carolin, senior vice-president of sales and marketing for Nissan North America, stated, "A low-cost DC quick charger unlocks the potential for unprecedented electric vehicle use and adoption. We anticipate thousands of these chargers will be installed across the country."

Nissan and Sumitomo will launch an online charger ordering system in January 2012. Installation of the DC quick-charge units will begin in spring of 2012.

The Race Between Low-Cost Quick-Charging and Battery Swapping

Meanwhile, Better Place—the biggest champion of EV battery swapping—has secured an additional $200 million through a Series C equity financing round from a consortium of top-tier investors. Since its establishment in 2007, Better Place has raised more than $750 million globally.

"We are entering the next phase of growth for our company where we prove that our solution works, that it’s in demand, and that it scales, as we begin to push into new markets and attract new investors and new partners," said Shai Agassi, CEO of Better Place.

Better Place battery switching station

Better Place battery switching station in Japan.

Better Place says demand in Israel from both fleets and consumers has soared, with more than 400 corporations, representing a potential of 80,000 employee vehicles, signing letters of intent with Better Place. In Denmark—where this summer I was able to drive through its first European battery swap station—nearly 7,000 residents have visited the Better Place Center, with 90 percent of the visitors expressing some interest in buying an electric vehicle in the future.

The creation of more EV charging possibilities, in whatever form, can't be an entirely bad thing. Although, as I discussed with Shai Agassi a few weeks ago, I'm still having trouble seeing how expensive battery swapping stations can scale up to accommodate millions of plug-in vehicles or compete with widespread deployment of quick-chargers (combined with home charging, which is and will continue to be the way most EV owners get a charge).

Regardless, the build-out of Better Place's swapping and charging network—combined with a low-cost high-volume quick-charging product—makes one thing clear: it's only a matter of months (not years) before EV owners will have abundant opportunities to juice up on the go.

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Bradley Berman is the editor of PluginCars.com. Brad writes about alternative energy cars for The New York Times, Detroit Free Press, Reuters and other publications. He is quoted in national media outlets, such as CBS News, ABC News, CNBC, CBC, and MarketWatch. Mr. Berman is a tireless researcher of the green car market. He is the transportation editor at Home Power magazine.

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Comments

· Kei Jidosha (not verified) · 26 weeks ago

In California, the demand charge from the utility can be $1,400 a month to connect a DC Quick Charger like this. Makes the cost of the charger almost immaterial.

· ex-EV1 driver · 26 weeks ago

Unfortunately, Better Place seems to be sewing up a lot of the capital that is available for EV support infrastructure. With the $700M or so that he's already collected, one could easily put fast charging about every 20 miles along all major transportation corridors.

· Smidge204 · 26 weeks ago

Battery swap absolutely has an advantage over quick charge. For one, you can swap as many times a day as you want without worrying about stressing the battery. For two, swapping takes 2 minutes regardless of charge state and you don't even have to get out of your car. For three, responsibility for the battery's health is no longer the driver's concern (and potentially the up-front cost of the pack comes out of the vehicle's sticker price).

One would expect swapping to be useful near city borders, where you can pick up a fresh pack before venturing out into the suburban jungle. Also great for fleets like taxis and delivery vans since even a 30-minute quick charge means the vehicle is out of service for 30 minutes.

Swap's problem is getting battery standards adopted. If every make and model of EV has a different battery pack then the swap model is a bust even if those batteries are capable of being swapped. This puts more focus on fleet use where all your EVs are likely to be the same.

Quick charge still has a place, but I don't think it's highway use. Quick charge is still going to be best implemented as destination charging. I just don't see people stopping for a half hour break every 60 miles or so (less than an hour's worth of highway driving) when they're traveling long distance. Spending 30%+ of your travel time at rest stops will suck.

· SeattleBlueLeaf (not verified) · 26 weeks ago

I wonder if the pricing and push for the DC charger from Nissan has any relationship to the SAE push for a unified connector? Seems like Nissan is trying to make the CHAdeMO stations ubiquitous. Next up (I Hope) -- US Nissan Dealers required to install and make available 24x7. That would be very cool.

· ex-EV1 driver · 26 weeks ago

@Smidge204
Other advantages of battery swapping:
1) All batteries must be identical for all manufacturers
2) You get to pay $5million to build your swapping station
3) You get to purchase the property which will be well located so it should be quite expensive
4) You get all of the heavy-duty mechanical material handling equipment necessary to quickly yet safely swap out these 500 lb battery packs and move them between the swapping facility and charging/storage facilities
5) As new, better battery technologies become available, swapping stations will get the pleasure of dealing with obsolete technologies that nobody wants -- or else drivers will get stuck with what the swapping stations give them, making travel planning much more difficult since you'll never know how far you'll be able to go before having to swap again.
I agree that Quick Charge has no place for highway use for minimal range vehicles such as the Leaf and "i". But then, again, I don't think Battery Swapping every hour is going to work either. In other words: minimal range EVs such as the Leaf and "i" are only useful as commuter vehicles.
IMHO, an EV needs at least a 3 hour driving range (~200 miles) before it is reasonable to think that most people will be taking them on the road with either swapping or quick charging. 4 hour or more will be even better.
Only Tesla's approach to swapping and Quick Charging makes any real sense. You'll be able to quickly swap your short-range battery for a rented long-range (300 mile) one before heading out on a trip. This will be fast chargeable at 90 kW (not Nissan's wimpy 50 kW) for a 45 minute charge about every 4 hours during normal human bio breaks.

· alt-e · 26 weeks ago

Batteries age with time. Give a battery 8 years in an EV and it might be down to 80% capacity. Everytime you swap your battery at one of these stations your EV range will randomly change.

If you have a new battery, would you want to give it up for a random one?

There may be fleet applications where battery swapping works. Like taxis and the like.

· Anonymous (not verified) · 26 weeks ago

Quick Charging with more than a few hundred cars will destroy the grid, it's just too much power during the few hours everyone plugs in when they get home from work.

· alt-e · 26 weeks ago

@Anonymous - I don't think anyone is advocating quick charging for home use. Nissan is just bringing the price down for use at businesses and retail spots.

Keep in mind that although it is very useful for there to be more quick charge infrastructure around, the vast majority of chargings are going to happen overnight at home over a period of hours. This is actually very good for the grid as much of the problems the grid has is that their peak load during the day is twice or so what their base load is. This prevents them from getting a good return on half of their equipment/capacity. EVs will increase the rate of return that utilities get from investments in the grid by raising the base load number and thus the utilization percentage of the grid hardware. This will allow the utilities to increase their grid capacity profitably. EVs are very good for the long term health of the grid.

Although there may be some growing pains along the way, just like with anything new.

· Steve (not verified) · 26 weeks ago

I think the debate between battery swapping and fast charging should not be a debate at all. We will need them both. Personally, I am so excited to see electric vehicles appearing on the road that I could care less how their owners choose to charge them up. I'm also excited by the promise that EVs will help reduce our planet-warming pollution. The market and individual driving habits and needs will determine which charging methods will dominate. The good news is that we will be saying goodby to thousands of stinky, noisy, dirty, fossil fuel guzzling internal combustion engines and using more of our own home grown energy. Solar/wind energy - No War Required!

· ex-EV1 driver · 26 weeks ago

@Steve,
I agree with your sentiments but, unfortunately, due to the greed efforts of many of the big players to stall out or dominate various EV support means, there have been and could be further efforts that slow the ability of EVs to overcome gasoline vehicles. We must remain vigilant against efforts to again kill EVs or to limit them for personal gain by making them too expensive to operate.

· Samie (not verified) · 26 weeks ago

No to battery swapping stations! I see many don't get it here but greed as EV1 (above) mentioned could easily take over the electric vehicle market.

Lets say Big Oil buys majority shares in these battery swapping companies & works out deals with all major auto-manufactures. The question would be beyond say 200 or 300 miles of battery range, what would be the advantage of expanding the range of the battery? With a majority under battery swapping wouldn't it seem likely to buy up any technologies that would let consumers charge in ten minutes or less, or battery charging products that have major cost reductions for the average consumer?

The whole idea of electric vehicles is to decentralize how we "fuel" our vehicles. Battery swapping is just another scheme to centralize EV "fueling" and slow down innovation.

· Anonymous (not verified) · 26 weeks ago

I think battery swamping is already a dead technology for public infrastructure (fleets, or specific companies like tesla its fine). Here are what I think the problems are:

a) too many different battery packs - each place needs to store every type. The number will just keep growing
b) not cost effective to store enough batteries - each swap station needs to have enough on the shelf to cover demand. Lets say 2 extra. Car manufactures are already having problems producing batteries fast enough and you want them to triple their production so they can sit on a shelf??? Now how many swap stations will there be needed per area? 50 for a major metro area? 100? it can't be one or two if its going to replace public charging. Thats A LOT of extra batteries and I don't see this happening at all
c) no one wants to trade their battery - go to the nissan leaf forum, look at battery section. Loads and loads of post on caring for battery, most optimal operating range, best methods to ensure long battery life etc. NO ONE will want to trade their battery they spent so much time keeping pristine for a random battery. And even if there is small battery degredation on the one you get, with only a 100 mile range, just 10 or 20% is HUGE. Its too variable.

· kjd · 26 weeks ago

Reducing the cost of a quick charge station from 30k to less than 10k is a big step in the right direction. Not sure that I would call it a breakthrough. There is still a large expense to get one installed and as others have stated the monthly demand charges will also be expensive.

Now if EVERY Nissan dealer in the country would install one of these and have it available to the public 24x7 now that WOULD be a breakthrough.

KJD
http://www.evalbum.com/3175

· Smidge204 · 26 weeks ago

@ex-EV1 driver
1) Already acknowledged need for standardization. Absolutely a hurdle and possibly a fatal one for general public access stations, less fatal for fleet operations.

2) Depending on the size and features (service station, minimart, etc) a new gas station can easily cost that much. It's not clear if the cost of the station - which I've seen numbers from $1m to $5m quoted from Better Place - is a significant barrier if demand is there. Operational costs of a swap station are also likely to be lower so that's something to consider.

3 & 4) Already included in the cost of the station, so... Plus, automated battery swap systems are already in place for commercial and industrial applications (eg: electric forklifts) so it's not like we're in entirely new territory here.

5) As new, better battery technologies become available, the upgrades will effectively be transparent to the end user providing the form factor of the battery remains compatible. This is actually a true benefit of the swap scheme, not a downfall. Remember that the driver does not own the battery under this model.

Remember that battery capacity is only half the problem: the bottleneck is the charging cord. Double the battery capacity and you can drive twice as long, but it will also take twice as long to recharge. Battery swap works even better here because time to swap remains constant regardless of battery capacity.

@alt-e: You lease, not own, the battery under the swap model, so the conditions of the lease would include things like guaranteed minimum capacity. Dud packs would have to be checked for and pulled from rotation for refurbishment.

· ex-EV1 driver · 26 weeks ago

@Smidge904
It seems like your costs may look cheap compared with a gas station, are huge compared to a DC fast charging station. $1M could buy perhaps 10 to 20 of them. If deployed intelligently, this could cover all of CA for 300 mile Teslas.
I agree with your battery capacity observation. That is why I complain about the money we're wasting on 50 kW CHAdeMO chargers when 90 kW ones wouldn't be much more expensive to install but would be sustainable.

· alt-e · 26 weeks ago

Smidge204 - Even if you don't own the battery, do you want to have your range 20% variable and really unknown every time you "fill up" your battery pack?

If you keep the same pack all the time, you get to know what the numbers on the dash really mean in terms of how many miles of a certain type you have. But add a random 20% variable and you really don't know where you stand.

· Benjamin Nead · 26 weeks ago

I'm also in the "DC Quick Chargers are preferable to Swap Stations" camp. I do, however, see a use for the latter.

We were just talking here on another thread recently regarding the possible dangers of lithium battery packs that get damaged in an accident (delayed fires, etc.) Logic dictates that there will be an increasing need for removal, safe sequestering and storage of such battery packs. For the most part, auto body repair shops are probably not going to be set up to do this.

Having a single swapping facility per city (or more, depending upon the size of the metro area) will fulfill this need, as well as one of the already intended purposes of fleet vehicle maintenance. For many of the other reasons already stated above, though, I tend to think that strategically placed DC quick chargers are going to be the most convenient and cost effective way to go for the average EV owner who are on the go

· ex-EV1 driver · 26 weeks ago

@alt-e,
Smart batteries should store their own battery life history so you'll know your range as soon as the battery pack is identified. You'll likely be able to select another if that one is unacceptable.
This will, likely get a bit squirrelly: Will they charge more for newer packs with longer range? Will you be able to reserve a particular pack in inventory? . . .

· Steven (not verified) · 26 weeks ago

I think ex-EV1 driver has nailed it:
Only Tesla's approach to swapping and Quick Charging makes any real sense. You'll be able to quickly swap your short-range battery for a rented long-range (300 mile) one before heading out on a trip.

Hopefully both Nissan and Better Place saw the post:
• Nissan to produce the larger, swappable battery that can be rented for long distance trips
• Better Place to bug Nissan until they do and then rework the swap station hardware and software to pick car specific batteries if necessary.

I am sure as heck not interested in letting a battery I take care of, however haltingly, disappear into an inventory of ‘rental car’ abused stock and hoping for the best when I ‘fill up’. But if I could leave my battery at the local Better Place and then pick it up again when I return from my trip that’s a whole different ball game!

@ex-EV1 driver - So are we talking an hour and a half for a 300 mile LEAF battery? I could live with that.

· Steven (not verified) · 26 weeks ago

If Better Place can't prod Nissan into action, maybe its dealers can. If electric cars live up to their reliability promises, this battery renting may help make up for the lost after-market service revenues. Another reason for Nissan dealers to get into the business is supplying drivers who can't afford a new battery when the time comes with an alternative to selling or junking the car.

· Anonymous (not verified) · 26 weeks ago

@ Steven,

Renault of Renualt-Nissan is working with Better Place on battery swapping, so it's incorrect to say the Nissan is not acceptable to the technology. What's happening, and this is my guess, is that R-N is trying to determine which technology will be better in financial feasibility and acceptability to the consumers. That, to me, is quite smart actually. Too bad that this isn't France, or Europe, which actually has BOTH vehicles available to the public.

Speaking of Tesla's technology, I would like to know from some of the knowledgeable ones here about the cost of incorporating it into, say, LEAF or any other low price EVs. Well, lowER priced EVs. There are so many complaints about FEV due to the fact that it has hit the $40K price point. Will incorporating Tesla's tech (if I understand it correctly, that's by having BOTH QC & battery swapping capability) drive EVs a few thousands more expensive? If that's the case, maybe it's best to have the cheaper models to have QC only, and the higher end models (like Infiniti) to have battery swapping.

· Steven (not verified) · 26 weeks ago

@Anonymous
Thanks for the information. I may come across as a Nissan basher - but I'm not! I lease one and will probably end up purchasing it if it makes sense when the time comes.
As you say, we need to hear from the knowledgeable ones. But my understanding was that you could battery-swap with first generation LEAFs. Is that swap-ability just for the Renault version (if they are separate animals)?
As for consumer acceptability, renting a battery should cost less than renting a car, say no more than 50%. But I wouldn't think that would pose a problem business model wise.

· ex-EV1 driver · 26 weeks ago

@Steven,
I didn't nail it, Tesla did! . . . or at least they're talking it now and may in the future.
As far as charging times for a 300 mile Leaf though, this is a complex issue:
1) With the current Leaf battery technology, a 300 mile battery would weigh between 3 and 4 times as much as the current one. I don't know if the Leaf can even carry that much weight or if there is room for it.
2) If Nissan re-designs the Leaf to handle a 300 mile battery, they could also conceivably design it to handle the same 90 kW or more charging speed as Tesla. This would allow it to charge in 45 minutes as well (actually 80% in 45 minutes, 100% in 1 hour)

Regarding Better-Place's influence on N-R: I think it is pretty clear that the only reason N-R CEO Carlos Ghosen switched from being anti-EV to committing to build them was completely because of the efforts of BP's Shai Agassi. He and a few of his Israeli captains of industry friends who know that an oil-based economy isn't really good for Israel convinced Ghosen and committed that Israel would commit to N-R EVs as a pilot market.

It will be interesting, however, to see how much of the battery business N-R is willing to cede to BP but I guess those two will have to work that out between themselves.

Providing QC and Swapping capability just requires that the battery design involve sufficient cooling, control, and current capability to handle the faster charging. It also requires that the mechanical design folks position the battery in an easily accessible manner. The initial design costs will probably be higher to handle Swapping but this shouldn't affect cost too much down the road. Batteries that support QC can be more expensive, depending on how fast they will charge and whether the designers chose to sacrifice battery life if fast charged by not providing enough cooling, control, or copper to keep the batteries happy.

Clearly, Ford is just taking the same simple, cheap, non-committal nod to EVs that they did in the '90's, probably hoping that EVs get killed again so they can continue business as usual. The FEV's sacrifice of trunk space and lack of QC support indicates their attitude. I'm certainly not going to go out of my way to support them.

· Herm (not verified) · 26 weeks ago

There are several advantages to swapping batteries, the main disadvantage is that it does not work well for a large country like the US.. for Denmark, Hawaii, England, Japan, and Israel its just about perfect.

1. you are always guaranteed the best battery as the tech improves, no risk from improving batteries making your investment obsolete.
2. since the battery does not have to last the life of a car (10-15 years) it can be made cheaper. Total lower cost..
3. the fire advantage previously mentioned.. any garage with a lift should be able to easily drop one of these batteries and safely storing it.
4. the whole car is cheaper since its sold without a $15k battery, lower taxes.
5. the swapping stations can use the batteries on standby for grid stabilization purposes, using shallow 2% cycles.. an added profit stream for the company. The local utilities will like that.

· Paul Bardinas (not verified) · 16 weeks ago

Sorry folks, but the Fast Charge stations seems like the most efficient way to go if creating a useful infrastructure is the way to go. With the cost of a NEW swap station in the millions of dollars and each city with the need for at least one station the cost to build a useful network would run into the Billions pretty fast. The time to put this network in place would be too long. No, the best way to spur the adoption of EV technology by the sheeple is to make it as easy and familiar as possible. Quick Charge stations could quickly be installed over an entire state and with mutliple locations throughout a city in 1/10th the time and at 1/10th cost. I personally am leading an effort in my own town to get multiple quickcharge stations installed at independently owned gas stations.

· kjd · 14 weeks ago

Brad,
How about an update on this Charge station that was supposed to be here in January. It is now Feb and I called my local Nissan dealer and they know nothing about this charger or when it will be available.

KJD

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