It looks like Leaf Japan sales were less than 1400 in January but 2,593 units in February!!!
http://translate.google.ca/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://www.jada.or.jp...
A couple of news items popped up in the last week about the Nissan LEAF that seemed to be promising, but lacked the complete information to make them fully digestible. PluginCars.com thought it would be helpful to delve into these items further, so we reached out to Nissan for clarification.
Although Nissan took an extra long amount of time to ramp up production of the LEAF from November until now, Mark Perry, Nissan's North American Director of Product Planning, told PluginCars.com the company is adding "weekend and overtime" shifts at the Oppama, Japan, plant where every LEAF is currently assembled.
As reported by Ward's, the Oppama plant builds more than 200,000 cars a year and right now one out of six of them is a LEAF. In order to get up to the level needed to meet initial demand for the LEAF, Nissan will add the shifts as above and start popping one LEAF off the line for every three cars built. As Perry tells us, Nissan "should be able to reach 4,000 units per month and possibly squeeze out a few more."
From December through the end of February Nissan had only sold 173 LEAFs in the U.S. leading to reports that nobody wanted electric cars. This is simply untrue. As Perry said, "Our sales number are not a reflection of demand, rather the length of our production pipeline." In fact, by the end of March, Perry told us that Nissan will have built 10,000 LEAFs for customers in Japan and the United States. Clearly that indicates Japanese customers have gotten preference until now, likely due to the fact their tax incentives for electric cars expire at the end of March.
The good news is that for people waiting to get their LEAFs the amount of vehicles reaching U.S. shores looks set to significantly increase soon.
The other bit of LEAF news to recently break in the "seems promising but should be taken with a grain of salt" category was a post from Green Car Reports indicating that Nissan would be offering an upgrade kit for first generation LEAF owners to double the speed at which they could charge from their home charging stations.
As many PluginCars.com readers know, the LEAF shipped with 3.3 kW on-board charging equipment—meaning it can add about 15 miles of driving range for every hour of charging. This was decried by many in the electric car community as far too slow because almost every charging station is capable of putting out at least enough juice to charge it at twice that speed. After the Ford Focus Electric was unveiled earlier this year with 6.6 kW charging speeds the narrative switched to LEAF vs. Focus Electric.
Nissan has pretty much admitted the 3.3 kW charging speed is a mistake that needs to be corrected as soon as possible, but most industry observers have expected that to come with the next generation LEAF in the 2013 model year (expected to be released at the end of 2012). At a conference last week, Mark Perry was quoted as saying that the option to upgrade existing LEAFs to 6.6 kW will happen in a year or so. If true, that would mean availability prior to the next generation LEAF hitting the market.
But apparently—as is often the case—things are not exactly as they seem. In an email to PluginCars.com, Perry said that Green Car Reports was "speculating" and that he said Nissan was "studying" the possibility of offering an upgrade in a year or so.
· Yegor · 1 year ago
It looks like Leaf Japan sales were less than 1400 in January but 2,593 units in February!!!
http://translate.google.ca/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://www.jada.or.jp...
· Nader (not verified) · 1 year ago
This explains why my late January order is scheduled for April delivery.
· Tom Moloughney · 1 year ago
Kei, I would definitely concur with the charging rate being the biggest deficiency. I'm going with the lack of an active thermal management system as #2, but that is really a regional issue. You probably don't need it as much in Southern CA as I would in Northern NJ.
And you are certainly right asking "What's to study?"
· harveysaurus (not verified) · 1 year ago
With the subsidy in Japan ending (or decreasing? or something like that?) at the end of March -- probably demand there will be lower for a little while. I am really hoping that that means in April and May Nissan plans to send most of those 4,000 per month production to the US.
· indyflick · 1 year ago
For me 6.6 kW charging would be useless. My LEAF is fully charged every morning via its present 3.3 kW charger. Also, it's always able to do this during the super off-peak rates. I also have a DC quick charger when those chargers become available. The DC quick charger will provide flat to 80% charge in 1/2 hour, whereas 6.6kW charging would take several hours. So 6.6kW charging, for me, has no value at all.
· EVNow · 1 year ago
@Yegor · "It looks like Leaf Japan sales were less than 1400 in January but 2,593 units in February!!!"
In Jan Nissan sold 981 Leafs in Japan.
· EVNow · 1 year ago
Scratch that - 891.
· abasile · 1 year ago
We'll see how the big earthquake affects the delivery timetable. My prayers for the nation of Japan.
· Brian (not verified) · 1 year ago
I'm with indyflick and Tom M. For me, a 6.6kW charger would be useless. Heck, I don't even need the 3.3kW charge; my daily commute is about 5 miles! Unfortunately, in upstate NY, the thermal management, especially in cold weather, is the biggest concern. I hope they integrate such a system soon and roll out nation-wide.
· dgpcolorado · 1 year ago
@Brian, If your commute is 5 miles, why would you care about a thermal management system? Even with cold battery pack you should still be able to have enough capacity to provide the range and cabin heat you would need.
As I understand it, cold weather doesn't actually harm the battery pack, unlike the effects of very hot weather.
· Lad (not verified) · 1 year ago
@Tom K:
Just saw a picture of the Nissan shipping dock in Japan and the water wiped out a bunch of Nissan destined to be shipped:
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/03/11/tsunami-in-japan-destroys-fleet-of-ca...
· indyflick · 1 year ago
@Brian (not verified), the LEAF uses a purpose built automotive (EV) battery from AESC based on laminated lithium-ion cells using a manganese spinel cathode material (LiMn2O4). It seems to me if the engineers at AESC determined that their battery configuration, using their chemistry, in this application required active thermal management, it would have been designed in. Okay so why do battery packs, based on consumer grade laptop batteries, require active thermal management? Well for one reason, because they are not purpose built for the application to which they are being employed. So active thermal management is a work around. For me, active thermal management is just one more thing which requires maintenance and can fail, give me a passive solution every time!
· Yegor · 1 year ago
Nissan's <7201.T> shares dropped 8.5 percent (March 14), with the automaker shuttering all four of its auto assembly plants in Japan.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/japan-manufacturers-tumble-quake-uncertainty-20...
· Greg (not verified) · 1 year ago
Here are some things you don't know about the Nissan Leaf: http://energyinyourlife.com/article.php?t=100000076
· Rahbaba · 1 year ago
Has anyone heard about the status of the Leaf delivery? Based on Reuters news, all the automobile manufacturing plants in Oppama Japan have been shut down temporarily. I know the Leaf was being built there, but there is no news about whether or not any Leafs were damaged by the tsunami while they were waiting to be shipped to USA.
· indyflick · 1 year ago
@Nick, I just found this update on the Nissan website. Nissan’s Tochigi and Iwaki plants will suspend operations until Friday, March 18. Nissan’s Oppama, Kyushu, Shatai and Yokohama plants will suspend operations until Wednesday, March 16.
· NRG4All (not verified) · 43 weeks ago
The 6.6 kW charger is definitely needed, not for home charging necessarily, but for all of the merchant chargers that ECOtality is installing across the U.S. The L2 charging stations are much less costly to install and most of the merchant charging stations will be L2. This makes a great deal of difference if you are shopping for an hour if the LEAF can absorb energy at 6.6 kW vs 3.3 kW.
· Phil (not verified) · 26 weeks ago
I drove the GM EV1 for 5 years. It had a 6 kW L2 charger, and I would have liked to charge faster if it had been possible. I now drive a Leaf and will upgrade to a 6 kW charger if one becomes available.
I wonder if indyflick, who says he'll have a DC L3 charger, has actually priced them or is aware of their AC supply requirements (3 phase 480V, common in commercial buildings but unheard of in US residences). Hell, I wonder if he's even SEEN a L3 charger anywhere in the US; I sure haven't.
While my car is usually charged in the morning when I need it, opportunity charging at work can be frustratingly slow during days with extra errands. Even if you charge only at night, 3.3 kW may be too slow to finish before the end of the super-off-peak period.
· ex-EV1 driver · 26 weeks ago
@Phil,
There is no reason that a DC L 3 charger has to be insanely high-powered. It would be completely possible to make an L-3 charger that runs off of a 240v/30a DC. It would simply charge at the usual 6.6 kW rate, not the maximum.
It would probably be cheaper for Nissan (or some enterprising person - Manzanita maybe?) to make such a thing than to try to make a retro-fit kit for the on-board charger in the Leaf.
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With ZERO installed Quick Charge infrastructure, the 3.3kW charger is the LEAF's single biggest deficiency. There is nothing to study.