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wharpiv · · 1 year ago

Good Morning (1st time poster/1st post).

I am wondering if I might get some advice on a few "Leaf" things,

1. Am I the only one that has seen dramatic reduction in range AFTER the computer resetting? - I would say that mine is about 8-10 miles less than before. Doesn't this directly make the advertising on the range false?

2. Has anyone noticed that 2010 & 2011 Leaf Used market has now become almost non-existant/obsolete? - I just found out a couple of days ago that the new 2013 Leafs are not selling well, so the price has been cut by $7 to $8K, with a tax refund on top of that?
(Unless one has some cash and was able to put down a monster down payment but if you're like me, one who couldn't put a lot of cash toward the car, then you're possibly stuck with your car and probably will automatically be "upside down" in your car if you wanted to trade in.

I don't find that this behaviour is appropriate and as I said, I feel stuck in my car and I don't like it. Yes, I could keep my car forever and ever but what if that's not an option?

I think Nissan should correct this. I feel that they should offer a continued tax incentive every year to make up for this financial undercut or offer vouchers on toward new cars (Leafs or otherwise).

Any ideas out there? Advice? Thanks for your time and make it great days.

wharpiv

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· · 1 year ago

Hi wharpiv,
I don't own a Leaf yet, but I have been waiting a whole year to buy a 2013 when they hit the lots next month.

The 2013 Leafs are not yet available at dealers so I don't know where you got the idea that they are not selling well. The price cut was caused by Nissan passing to consumers the savings of building the cars in Tennessee instead of Japan. The tax refund is not unique to Nissan so that is not really their problem.

All the used Leafs I have seen (of which there are not many) are being sold in the $20-24k range. This is at least partly because they are priced to compete with the post-tax-rebate price on new EVs. This means that if you sell the car, you lose the money you got from the rebate, but that just means it got passed on to the next owner. When you buy another EV, you get another tax credit, but you are right that it does not come immediately.

As with any bleeding-edge technology, early models lose a lot of their appeal as the new ones with more features and lower prices come out (just look at how much 1st and 2nd generation iPhones cost now). I myself have made the choice to wait for the 2013 Leaf rather than get a used 2011 or 2012 for that very reason. So it does not surprise me that the market for used Leafs is weak right now. I am sorry to hear you feel backed into a corner with your finances, but it is not entirely unexpected.

I don't really see how any of this is Nissan's fault--every other technology company does the same thing when they release a revolutionary product. What is it that you think they could be doing differently?

· · 1 year ago

I traded my leaf in 3 weeks ago, and re-checked the dealers website and its already sold. The used LEAFS are steady with sales. The new owner has not updated the Carwings and I just received another email it was done charging.

I dont think there is anything wrong with the LEAF sales its just low supply...which would mean a price inflation....but not so much, yet.

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