I wanted to get some feedback from as many people as possible in this forum. We took a 2002 Toyota RAV4 EV in for trade and the customer also included the 220 charger (it is in the backseat). From what I have found so far there were only 382 made and obviously there are none out there for sale so I wanted to know if you would have any input for me or be interested in the car.
Thanks, Aaron
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2002 Toyota RAV4 EV for sale
· aarond63 · 50 weeks ago
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· darelldd · 50 weeks ago
Hi Aaron -
There were far more than 328 made, but that's close to the "retail" number. From my FAQ:
Q: How many Rav4EVs have been on the road?
A: Fleet numbers by model year:
1997 - 69
1998 - 359
1999 - 255
2000 - 106
2001 - 160
retail numbers:
2002-2003 - 238 leases and 101 purchases = 339 total
VIN 2818, the last of the retail Rav4EVs was sold on September 14, 2003.
The used value reached a peak of over $60,000 at the 3-year mark. Sales are now happening in the $20k area. There are no NEW ones for sale, but the used ones do come up every now and again. Most are sold on eBay, though many have luck selling them on our Rav4EV email list as well.
Have a look at my Rav4EV page to learn more than you ever wanted to know:
http://evnut.com/rav.htm
· darelldd · 50 weeks ago
Aaron -
Yes, the chargers haven't been made for a while, and are not so easy to find these days!
· Tom Moloughney · 50 weeks ago
aaron: Just wondering, how many miles does it have and is it the original battery pack?
· Tom Moloughney · 50 weeks ago
Darell has a much better grip on the RAV4 EV market out there but I find it hard to believe that someone would buy a (nearly)decade old EV with 90,000 miles on the original pack for 25K when they can also buy a new LEAF from the same dealer for virtually the same price. Granted they'll have to wait for the LEAF, but still...
Not to disparage your wonderful EV Darell. If they were both new, it would be a different story, but ten years old and a pack that is going to need to be replaced in a few years I think 25K is a bit high. Of course if this was only a year ago then I bet you would get it, however today there are finally options..but then again I'm not in CA, and I really don't know the RAV4 EV demand out there. I can tell you this, I drove in Marc Geller's last year(Darell wouldn't let me in his!), and it's a great vehicle.
Historically the few used ones that were for sale sold instantly and commanded higher prices than 25K, but things have changed now that you CAN finally buy an EV.
· darelldd · 50 weeks ago
Obviously I have no crystal ball. All I can tell you is that fully operable Ravs haven't yet sold for under $20. If folks could drive a Leaf home off the lot, there wouldn't be much discussion - but as you note, that isn't the case. Instant gratification is still worth money, apparently.
Also to note: The Leaf is not the configuration of vehicle that some buyers are looking for. There are several tasks for which the Rav is much better suited for than the Leaf. For one thing, I can stand a full-size, fully-assembled bicycle in the back of the Rav without any fuss. I'm not sure a bicycle will fit in the back of the Leaf without first using a plasma torch (somebody please prove me wrong with pictures!). Does the buyer want to haul hay? Maybe he regularly takes loads of recyclables to the collection center? It isn't always about new and shiny - sometimes the best car for the job is old and dented. ;)
· darelldd · 50 weeks ago
Will do, Aaron -
I will tell you that an owner friend of mine is selling his 2002 with 89k miles - original pack and original range for $19,000 right now.
· darelldd · 37 weeks ago
@ Anon -
In my office.
Ha ha.
I'm near Sacramento, CA.
· darelldd · 25 weeks ago
I can be found at: darell (at) evnut (point) co m.
· darelldd · 17 weeks ago
Hi Eric -
I just replied to your email as well... And approved you for the Rav4EV list. ;)
· regman · 17 weeks ago
Don't know where there is a Rav4EV but I may know where there is a Ranger EV.
· darelldd · 9 weeks ago
22k miles needed a replacement pack? Was it parked for an extended period?
· spiehler (not verified) · 9 weeks ago
Yes it was parked for an extended period on a very low charge. They normally last much longer- if they are actually driven. I just listed it- but it will take a little time for it to show up on ebay.
I just noticed someone above was in the market- so, i figured I'd let you know there is one available. Actually- 2. I saw another one listed on ebay as well.
They are great little cars I cant believe the range is as good as it is- its equal to my Leaf. But my leaf is much fancier. I love driving electric. I never want to buy gas again. :0)
-Sara
· darelldd · 9 weeks ago
@ spiehler -
The Rav's range isn't as good as the Leaf's. It is quite a bit better. At least mine sitll is, after 10 years and 90k miles....
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Aaron, Darell one of the frequent contributors here could probably be of help. He has one and knows all about them. There are others that post here like Mark Geller who could also give you some direction, but Darell is here every day so hopefully he'll read this and reach out to you.
I know one thing, before you could buy a volt or LEAF the used RAV4 EV's would sell for big bucks(way more than they cost new) even with high mileage and a battery that would soon need replacing, now not so much since you can finally buy a new EV. I'm guessing you got it from a trade in on a LEAF?